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90volts
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Post by 90volts »

but is it a clone of the 'original' manx? now don't go off the deep end... i didn't say they weren't rare. they were the 'second model' and if someone decided to be a real 'purist' they could argue that it wasn't the original run. also, per the authentication part of this site, Bruce was not with the company for the whole run. and the quality of the kits was not consistent throughout the run. just saying it depends on how you look at it. and on the lighter side. you know how i was saying about making a badge that said LYNX. well, it appears that Bruce and company DID actually use that name so I would not be able to do that! who knew? LOL. they produced a mini bike named the LYNX![url]http://jeffs_garage.tripod.com/pictures/meyersadd.jpg[/url]
myspeedbuggie
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Post by myspeedbuggie »

I think this might be RBC >>> :hello: This is a great group of people.. at the Manx, lone pine run this year my car had a a Trans mount..brake and they all Went back with me !!! :clap: http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/albu ... .sized.jpg
Gene-C
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Post by Gene-C »

Hey 90, I dont think a Manx II is a clone. it was made differently. For one, it has a back seat instead of the battery and spare tire well. (this was to compensate for IRS rears). Also, the front badge was replaced with a sticker. Like I said I have one made before Bruce left. the quality it there. I dont mean to be harsh. I just dont like peeps that claim to have a Manx when they dont. Your link didnt work ( bummer) I would love to see what a Meyers bike looked like.
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Post by UncleBob »

http://www.manxclub.com/botm-12-04/botm-12-04-1.htm That's a nice buggy. Love the color. It's a Meyers Manx 'Replica', NOT a 'Clone', so I don't understand the fuss. :laugh1: I've met people that SWEAR their Mini-T type buggy is a Meyers Manx, and would surely slap a badge on it if they had one. I've learned not to argue. Really, it's NONE OF MY BUSINESS, so I could care less. And, if ever a real Manx owner speaks poorly of my unique unknown buggy body, I'll simply ask them if they wanna race. :D
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Post by flaboyjim »

[QUOTE="90volts"] last I checked the homepage here said "Welcome to The Manx Club's Official Website. The club is open to fiberglass dune buggy owners of all makes and models." [/QUOTE] I think that applies to the East Coast only - we are more liberal than those "conservative" West Coast dudes..... :laugh1: ( aint that a turn on political correctness?) A buggy is a buggy is a buggy - a Manx is a buggy, is a buggy, is a buggy. I dont have my Manx anymore, but I have a clone. I one time owned a Rolex, but now all I can aford is a Timex - both tell time, its just a matter of telling it with style... just my :2cents: but dont try to pass off a Timex as a Rolex !!! - To quote a famous group of the 60s " We are Family"
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Post by CairoManx »

ImageHere is that photo I said I would find that shows that the Manx that was used by AMT as the model for their model kit was actually a clone. See the rib running down the hood and lack of any emblem? Its a gorgeous buggy and I can see why AMT used it. They wanted to sell models and went with the hottest looking "Manx" they could find and it was a clone. Authenticity didn't bother them a bit. They just smoothed out the rib and stuck a badge on the model. The whole genuine vs. clone thing has been going on since day two. The only problem I have is with actual counterfeits: the ones that are being passed off as Meyers Manxs. Just like Bruce has, we need to get over it, appreciate every buggy for itself, and have fun.
Gene-C
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Post by Gene-C »

I agree that the color on monkiboy's buggy is cool too; shame he's so far away, as I'd like the opportunity to see that one sparkle in the sun. After all of the badged clone hubbub dies down, we'll hopefully all go back to digging all things fiberglass. Brand notwithstanding, it's cool seeing buggies out and about - there's probably less than 10 buggies in my immediate area(including a few rails), so sightings are more rare here than on the left coast.....except for at the larger northeast shows, that is. For the next 4 or 5 months, online is the only place I'll see buggies other than my own. :x Most of the time, I don't even use the word 'Manx' when referring to mine; I generally call him 'the buggy' or 'the blue one.' It's harder for folks to mispronounce 'buggy' than it is 'Manx' anyway. :D **As the whole badge thing got blown way out of proportion, my signature didn't look that funny anymore - gone. :cool:
Gene-C
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Post by Gene-C »

Really and truely as a total car nut, I don't get why there is all this excitement..................Here they might be most peoples pride and joy but if a clone is moulded out of the original mould (Mel Hubbard to Rob at East Coast) doesn't that make it a MANX. And I understand that Bruce doesn't get any pennies from it but that happens the world over. As an owner of and genuine AC Cobra I can honestly say I don't give a flying f#ck that I see far more clones with the Cobra and AC badges adorning thier bonnets and many of them are so hidiously ugly but these guys I have a so called clone and it has a raised lump on the bonnet......it was crying out for a Manx badge, I found one and stuck it on. I have to say that was all in innocence as I believed I had a Manx and still do. Needless to say it's staying put. Get real we're talking about a beetle stripped of it body and plastic bath tub put in its place. Not a 250 GTO
Gene-C
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Post by Gene-C »

Can I hear an amen? .......Guys lets drop this topic before we start to hate each other. MURZ
Gene-C
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Post by Gene-C »

Image "Can't we just all get along" :D
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Post by Tominator »

[QUOTE="Myspeedbuggie"]Speedee the Bastard Clone ..."We don`t need no stinking badges" :x :x[/QUOTE] Speedee , Thank you for your response - I laughed out loud . Children Children Boys an Girls I guess I have two cents to throw in here also - It would seem perhaps that there are only two people who should be conceren with what an original MANX is . They are: 1) A Historian - who wants to maintain and pass along Fact 2) A Purchaser - Who is interested in,and willing to pay for the extra value that a true original represents. I chuckle to myself when I see someone trying to pawn off a clone as an original ( at least they know what to strive for ), and feel bad for the person who bought a clone thinking it was a original . Guess thats how you learn . So do your home work . I remember one time back in the early 70s I walked into a shop and saw a 427 Cobra which was very cool as I had never seen one but had heard that people were starting to make replicas .There was no such thing as vintage racing yet and it seemed that if you wanted to see one you had to make an appointment with god . So anyways a guy walks out of the office an I say "Wow this is so beautiful is it an original "? He got so inscenced - I wondered if I unknowingly stepped on his infant daughters face when I walked in . I guess he equated his worth as a human being with weather or not he had an original cobra . Poor guy . What an opportunity he had to be share his interest in , and knowledge of , such a great piece of automotive history with a friendly person who was clearly interested in historical fact and admiration . Instead I walked back to my car and thought I would have been much further ahead if I stayed home and threw up on myself and he went back in his office and and probably started to cry because in his mind someone had just questioned his manhood I guess . :2cents: PS : For those of you who don't get SPEEDEE's quote ( There may be one or two of you ) go rent some old Clint Eastwood westerns - it will be worth it.
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Post by Tominator »

[QUOTE="viper"]Really and truely as a total car nut, I don't get why there is all this excitement..................Here they might be most peoples pride and joy but if a clone is moulded out of the original mould (Mel Hubbard to Rob at East Coast) doesn't that make it a MANX. And I understand that Bruce doesn't get any pennies from it but that happens the world over. As an owner of and genuine AC Cobra I can honestly say I don't give a flying f#ck that I see far more clones with the Cobra and AC badges adorning thier bonnets and many of them are so hidiously ugly but these guys I have a so called clone and it has a raised lump on the bonnet......it was crying out for a Manx badge, I found one and stuck it on. I have to say that was all in innocence as I believed I had a Manx and still do. Needless to say it's staying put. Get real we're talking about a beetle stripped of it body and plastic bath tub put in its place. Not a 250 GTO[/QUOTE] Thank you :drinking:
Gene-C
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Post by Gene-C »

OK I'm Done... I still love you guys!
Gene-C
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Post by Gene-C »

Tominator, What is the body on your buggy? It's pretty cool looking. Can't wait to see it when it's done. You're Cobra story reminded me of this. I was at a stop light one time and a nice looking Cobra pulled up beside me. I asked if it was real. He said "Yea we make em right here in Daytona" :confused: There was however a real 427 Cobra being restored here in town back in the 70s. IT being my dream car and I a high school kid I kept stopping and checking it out. I'm still dreaming. :cool:
Gene-C
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Post by Gene-C »

When I stumbled across my f/g body, I was almost certain it was a Manx. Hood looked correct, etc., but it was missing the glassed-in supports under the fenders. No tag or evidence of one being there. The clincher was when I started to clean off all the years of dirt and lichen residue, I found the manufacturer's name molded in: "Fibre-Motive" Ok, so it's not a Manx, but it's not an unknown, either. Now I just have to be careful not to accidently sand off the ID when it's time for body work. I plan on putting some kind of emblem on the hood bump, but it won't say Manx.
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