Camber Stop

Reverb · Post by **Reverb** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:55 am

Has anybody used one of these camber stops on a swing axle trans? Are they worth the investment?

Tom-Kathleen · Post by **Tom-Kathleen** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:04 am

I used one back in the late 60's on my 63 bug. It did help. If you can get some negative camber to start with, it will feel even better. The only way to get a swing axle to handle is get some negative camber and reduce the travel from there. Wide tires also help, they "tuck under" less Tom

newmanx59 · Post by **newmanx59** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:59 am

I am running one on my Manx right now. I put it on because the wouldn't let me autocross the buggy without the camber compensator and or suspension limiter straps, because of the swing axle rear suspension. I really notice a difference in stability when driving around freeway ramps at speed. It will prevent the outboard axle from tucking under and potentially causing the buggy to roll in a hard turn.

Reverb · Post by **Reverb** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:04 am

Sounds like a sound investment then. My only concern at this point, is how far it hangs down under the transaxle, catching rocks and other debris.

newmanx59 · Post by **newmanx59** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:13 am

I do pull the camber compensator off the buggy when I take it in the dunes. I know the bracketry would get bent up if I didn't. It only takes 10 minutes to remove or install the unit and since my buggy spends 95% of it's life on the street, it's not a big deal.

Gene-C · Post by **Gene-C** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 5:17 am

how much does it hang down? also i have mine lifted a little just past the level plane, will it push the axle up when installed or is it not touching while it is level?

newmanx59 · Post by **newmanx59** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 5:23 am

It sticks down directly under the center of the trans, about 4 inches. When it's bolted in position it is (preloaded) pushing up on the outer ends of the axle. It didn't seem to change the ride height although the buggy does ride a little softer in the back.

Gene-C · Post by **Gene-C** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 5:52 am

OK thank you. no problem then. as the air shocks will just have a few extra LBS to reverse any drop or softness. how much are they ? i cant remember where i seen them for sale.

Gene-C · Post by **Gene-C** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:29 am

I found one for 130$ is there any place cheaper?

Mvovr · Post by **Mvovr** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:09 am

Jerry,Can you post up a shot of it installed? I street drive my buggy mainly and would love to see how it attaches.

CairoManx · Post by **CairoManx** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:49 am

[QUOTE="seabeeBuggy"]I found one for 130$ is there any place cheaper?[/QUOTE] http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EMPI-9615-VW-SYNCHRO-SWING-AXLE-BUGS-CAMBER-COMPENSATOR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ46104QQitemZ8023420085QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

joemama · Post by **joemama** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:10 am

while I think it is a good thing on the street, offroad it would reduce the amount of "droop" the suspension would have, therefore reducing travel, not to mention it hanging down, where it reduces clearance, and its suscentible to damage. I almoust bought one the first time I took my buggy out, (offroad), but the vendor was out of stock, once I drove the buggy, I decided I didnt need it. With the low center of gravity on a buggy, compared to a bug, the swingaxles propensity for tucking under, is not as much of a problem. Of course, I am not looking for ultimate handling on the street, its pretty awsome the way it is.

newmanx59 · Post by **newmanx59** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:00 pm

I posted a couple pictures with some captions at this link http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/Buil ... range-Manx They are the last 2 pictures (bottom of the page) I hope they help.

Gene-C · Post by **Gene-C** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:17 pm

Any stabilizer bars or camber adjuster for the rear IRS?

Gene-C · Post by **Gene-C** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:04 pm

Here's a couple shots of my compensator. I actually bought this one from Jerry earlier this year. It cleaned up nicely.